tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post1984631813170560818..comments2024-03-03T08:23:38.876-06:00Comments on Treasure Hunting: J. Frank Dalton, Jesse James or Not?okie treasure hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04442893428963538886noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-87161382152397769722019-05-17T10:37:54.287-05:002019-05-17T10:37:54.287-05:00Didn't Jesse's descendants have something ...Didn't Jesse's descendants have something to say on the subject? I first read about Dalton in the schoolboys' annual for 1969-am surprised nobody ever made a film called "Was He Jesse James?" Might have made a good western.mark tahanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-66123277876766283532017-07-27T15:14:19.597-05:002017-07-27T15:14:19.597-05:00It's unbelievable how deluded the story of Jes...It's unbelievable how deluded the story of Jesse James is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-28707391328567791242014-08-31T00:01:04.568-05:002014-08-31T00:01:04.568-05:00Jesse james is my cousin. I don't know much ab...Jesse james is my cousin. I don't know much about him, and I've been researching him lately to find out more about him. And this definitely is an interesting article<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-55398441237997792042013-03-28T16:58:04.282-05:002013-03-28T16:58:04.282-05:00Jesse James III was a personal friend of mine from...Jesse James III was a personal friend of mine from 1956 until his death. He was a total fake as was J. Frank Dalton. 'Nuff said. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-36693602161629260132013-02-01T19:54:58.759-06:002013-02-01T19:54:58.759-06:00Actually J. Frank Dalton did at first claim he was...Actually J. Frank Dalton did at first claim he was the Missouri JJ, but later changed his story. If you want I'll send you a original copy of Jesse James Rides Again. This is the first version of his story before Houk and the others started changing it.<br /><br />The reason there is no record of the weddings is that they were wanted men and couldn't very well waltz into the courthouse. I have a copy of Frank James will and numerous photographs of him from his time here in Oklahoma. okie treasure hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04442893428963538886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-9295123276722674692013-02-01T19:34:32.075-06:002013-02-01T19:34:32.075-06:00there is no certified picture of Jesse James , plu...there is no certified picture of Jesse James , plus no one ever claimed that J. Frank Dalton was that same man, quite the opposite. his claim was that the Clay Co. man was a stand in.<br />There is no records of any marriage of Jesse James to Zee Mimms in Clay or Jackson Co. Mo., and no record of Frank James and Annie Ralston either.<br />There is a record of Jesse doing one death hoax down on Short creek near Northwest Arkansas.<br />There is no record of any inquest into the death of Jesse James in Clay or surrounding areas of Mo. No matter what you read about it.<br />I am pretty sure that I know who J. Frank Dalton was but that doesn't mean that Jesse didn't fake his death a second time. I firmly believe he did.Lou Kilgorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-78038848820487569542011-04-22T02:32:17.849-05:002011-04-22T02:32:17.849-05:00i"ve studied many of the pictures with compar...i"ve studied many of the pictures with comparisons made by layering. Through this there is a great many similarities between bone structure that was performed by fbi analysts. the program is very simple and in fact the the changes the facial structures that many beuse that are said to not change as in the show on discovery are flawed. It is well known that bone structure in the face does change due to age. My evidence for this is the pictures of Mr. james at the age of sixteen are much different from his pictures of him in his twenties. These pictures do not fit in the facial profiling program and that was used by the fbi as a control. This of course was edited by the producers because the implication would be that the pictures were not of Mr. James to begin with. There are only a handful of authenticated pictures of Mr. James that exist. These photos where not published until after the death of Frank James and also family members that had these photos. Of those photos their quality is very poor and enhancement techniques are not helpful due to the way the photos having been produced on paper that does not allow for sustaining microscopic enhancement. None of this has been discussed by you. There are techniques that can be done with measurements that do not require enhancement. The best is the growth of anatomical parts. The ears and nose continue to grow and can through mathmatical certainty be used to validate location and height on the skull. J Frank Dalton has been found to have these measurements to be within these known changes. The angle of theses picture comparisons have also been proven by an independent military facial comparison team to be consistant as the same person. They did not know that the person in question was Mr. James. they were able to determine over 20 points of similarity which the baseline is >12 points. The computer process is used in identifying terrorist identification and is as accurate as DNA. The growth of hair or plastic surgery to change facial structure does not change the outcome. Distance of the camera also does not affect the outcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-4576967435324611062010-06-20T13:03:09.333-05:002010-06-20T13:03:09.333-05:00Pictures of J. Frank Dalton's affidavits can b...Pictures of J. Frank Dalton's affidavits can be found at the Jesse James Wax Museum in Stanton Missouri.SirPwn4g3https://www.blogger.com/profile/04089771382817009888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-71678790581103445422009-04-30T15:35:00.000-05:002009-04-30T15:35:00.000-05:00Technically speaking, to the best of my knowledge ...Technically speaking, to the best of my knowledge no one has ever shown the questioned affidavits that John James and J. Frank Dalton reportedly both used to the general public. The following excerpt is from my latest book, "The Truth About Jesse James". <br /><br />"Apparently John James read extensively about Jesse James during his year in prison, because soon after his parole he once again assumed the name of Jesse James. Carl Breihan relates that John James claimed to be the Jesse Woodson James in the 1930’s and had affidavits to validate his story. However, he was discredited at a court hearing held to validate his story because he did not know the name of Jesse James’ half-brother, Archie Peyton Samuel, killed in the Pinkerton raid at the James/Samuel farm in 1875. He was later identified as an escapee from an old soldier’s home in Illinois. Just months after John James’ death J. Frank Dalton stepped into his role of playing Jesse James armed with the same affidavits John James used to validate his claim. In one instance, Dalton’s promoters even claimed that he was the same man as John James, despite the fact that John James was already dead.” <br /><br />Source: Steele, Philip W., The Many Faces of Jesse James, Pelican Publishing Company, Gretna 1998.Betty Dukehttp://www.jessejamesintexas.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-64670954079915047052008-02-19T20:41:00.000-06:002008-02-19T20:41:00.000-06:00This is a very interesting article on J. Frank Dal...This is a very interesting article on J. Frank Dalton. The only discrepancy is the affidavits. Although it is widely believed, there has never been any real proof the affidavits were the same used by John James. I am not saying I disagree, it is a possibility. On the subject of the death photo, I am glad you pointed this out. Many people ave seen this program are quick to point out the evidence shown. However, they never mention the death photo comparison. As many people know, Frank James lived in Fletcher. On several occassions he told people his brother was alive. In 1906 he started the horse races at the Comanche Carnival in Comanche, IT. When asked about his brother, he responded, "If I knew noone would molest him, I would introduce him. He is within shooting distance." Did he make comments for show or did he make them because they were true? The truth may never be known. However, many people who knew him personally believed Jesse was still alive.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16763090986611729514noreply@blogger.com