tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post2375495619194683610..comments2024-03-03T08:23:38.876-06:00Comments on Treasure Hunting: Extremely Disappointedokie treasure hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04442893428963538886noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-45030134362268500102023-08-11T10:51:51.768-05:002023-08-11T10:51:51.768-05:00Many things indicate that the findings are legit w...Many things indicate that the findings are legit while others are questionable. The corpse lacked a scar over his left eye while the photo of the younger Jesse James clearly showed a scar. Unless Jesse had plastic surgery -- which I doubt was available in the 1800s -- that corpse was not Jesse. <br />However, one thing the show failed to mention is Jesse's widow and children. His widow was so distraught that she never stopped wearing her black dress. And, his 11 year-old son had to go to work to help support the family; you can Google this info. If Jesse had survived, would he have not helped support his family with all the loot he stole? Would he never want to see his 2 children ever again to keep his cover....Maybe yes, maybe no, just depends on his character.<br /><br />As for the buried coins: the glass mason jars would have protected the coins from corrosion and dirt. But then, why were the mason jars found broken and the coins found in adjacent location? A glass mason jar would not break just sitting buried in the ground; a physical force would have to act on the glass to break it. <br /><br />Many unanswered questions.....only speculation and conjecture. <br />Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-32808505120859069442016-07-11T14:23:52.808-05:002016-07-11T14:23:52.808-05:00If Jesse James did indeed fake his death to live a...If Jesse James did indeed fake his death to live an unassuming and anonymous life, he wouldn't have used his real last name and the last place on earth he would have settled down in was the state of Kansas. He hated Kansas and Kansans hated him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-76020438827616868952016-06-25T11:08:23.849-05:002016-06-25T11:08:23.849-05:00Ellinwood Kansas was siteEllinwood Kansas was siteGDChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08790174820552941219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-58666081323975009342015-12-18T15:54:34.613-06:002015-12-18T15:54:34.613-06:00Did they ever say whether the body taking the plac...Did they ever say whether the body taking the place of Jesse James had two chest wound scars and that he was missing the top half of his middle finger? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-746738114176590162015-12-16T16:55:07.071-06:002015-12-16T16:55:07.071-06:00Just watched this show for the 1st time on a DVD I...Just watched this show for the 1st time on a DVD I checked out from my local library. It was entertaining, to be sure. I am not a Jesse James historian, nor do I know much about gold, coins, treasure hunting, but I thought it was all a bit cheeseball. The markings on the sandstone walls? Looked legitimately older, so i don't think those were probably staged. But who's to say they were drawn in 50 years ago by some random kids having fun? I mean, come on, it seems like an awfully big leap to say those were done by the James-Younger gang or that they had anything at all to do with the KGC. As I said, the story was highly entertaining, but didn't seem realistic at all. Did anyone else notice that on the sign-in sheet for the militia/guerrilla reunion that Jesse's name was spelled incorrectly? It was spelled Jessie, not Jesse.<br /><br />I would love to see a show based on the J.M. James/Jesse James theory. Was be very interesting and entertaining even if disproved.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013342993741368948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-22902844135135149542014-06-27T18:48:32.177-05:002014-06-27T18:48:32.177-05:00Kansas is an open carry state... they didn't h...Kansas is an open carry state... they didn't have to have any other reason to have guns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-68897507228422761332014-03-15T15:32:03.214-05:002014-03-15T15:32:03.214-05:00I have just seen this show for about the 3rd time....I have just seen this show for about the 3rd time. I am not so sure about the treasure hunting part and don't care about that, but the parts about that young guy being a great-great-grandson of Jesse James, and JM James really being Jesse James, I TOTALLY buy that. The evidence is TOO compelling! I'd rather see a show on that alone, going over all the evidence, including other historical records such as census records, etc., that may further shed light on this possibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-14559705085470421612013-10-12T21:30:00.170-05:002013-10-12T21:30:00.170-05:00Cool story mr P. but maybe try to sell it to a 5th...Cool story mr P. but maybe try to sell it to a 5th grade class next time. More than likely you will get the rewarding applause you seem so intent on getting. It's actually quite disturbing that you would even attempt, on camera, probably a priceless archeological dig on gold coins. When you did hit the mother load didn't even take off your sand caked leather gloves that would absolutely tarnish the value. History and monitary..... Again try it to some elementary kids and I bet you will receive the "cool treasure hunter" title, you seem so intent on having.... We're all adults Mr. P.... Should have thought it through another day. Sweet badges and tactical gear though. Mark andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08801473060325209643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-61407932836593200972013-07-14T13:32:06.261-05:002013-07-14T13:32:06.261-05:00Just saw the program for the first time last night...Just saw the program for the first time last night on the History Channel. The theories were interesting and entertaining. However, the uniforms and sidearms, including a shotgun, were over the top. It was like they were trying to give the impression that wearing the uniforms and having the weapons made it an "official" search with some type of authority attached to the adventure. After reading that they belong to, or own, a private security company, the whole thing for me was simply just a notch above one of those "scripted" reality shows where the whole thing is a reenactment. Finding the coins and the broken Mason jar, that was definitely staged. I'm not a Jesse James history authority so I'll chalk this all up to "interesting" along with the Templar Knights artifacts found buried in Arizona. If you want someone to take you seriously, leave your private security badges, uniforms, and weapons at home next time. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-55858969027692471102013-04-27T19:30:09.491-05:002013-04-27T19:30:09.491-05:00The face matching portion of the show was not very...The face matching portion of the show was not very well thought out. The shape of J.James' nostrils match the nostrils of the corpse. It would have been more plausible to say that he posed for the corpse picture, and then went off to live his life in secrecy, than to say that the corpse was someone else. Also, I paused the scene where the DNA report from the exhumed corpse pops up. The show highlights the part where it says that there can be no conclusion about the corpse being J.James, HOWEVER, when you keep reading it, you find out that they are just being scientists, and scientists never say anything is 100%. But, they are very certain to the point where they conclude that someone else has to disprove that it's the corpse of J.James by some other proof, because the corpse itself is a match for the outlaw.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466799084250690918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-75078731718325884782013-03-22T17:27:57.572-05:002013-03-22T17:27:57.572-05:00While I have just seen this show, and now read all...While I have just seen this show, and now read all these comments, It has sparked a true belief in what history says. I have always believed that Jesse James faked his own death just based on simple evidence, now after see the face recognition with his great great grandson...its confirmed thst JM James was Jesse. No doubt in my mind. As far as gold or silver coins go...it does come out of the ground shiny....bury a coin yourself and see ! I believe that Mr Pastore is on the right track, but for the convience of filming...of course recreating must hsppen now and then...too much history is showing that this is true...and I believe its never to late to change our minds...good job History Channel....keep it up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13538121960303761175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-89400652794679711312013-01-12T19:28:13.105-06:002013-01-12T19:28:13.105-06:00the mason jar logo looks like its from 1933- 1960&...the mason jar logo looks like its from 1933- 1960's hers the history of ball jar logos link<br />http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=d&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=avhQ6NsBsSVRNM:&imgrefurl=http://www.artangelsmarket.com/1/post/2012/06/ball-mason-jar-dating-chart.html&docid=Sx0qnNeciYk-lM&imgurl=http://www.artangelsmarket.com/uploads/5/1/1/8/5118311/1121505.jpg%253F464&w=464&h=315&ei=1QnyUJi7F5To8QSY04FA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=181&vpy=51&dur=23&hovh=185&hovw=273&tx=127&ty=117&sig=117875587812197470259&page=1&tbnh=148&tbnw=218&start=0&ndsp=31&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:88Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-13536027158095442372013-01-12T18:13:32.637-06:002013-01-12T18:13:32.637-06:00Im seeing alot of under educated comments on here ...Im seeing alot of under educated comments on here in regard to the gold looking to new<br />Watch any credible show about gold and you will see gold looks that shiny coming out of the ground after thousands of yearsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-14426503871096406962013-01-10T21:47:10.543-06:002013-01-10T21:47:10.543-06:00I could barely stand this show. I went straight to...I could barely stand this show. I went straight to the net to check this weirdo out. I agree with a lot of what I have read here. Such as, and was my first thought, what the hell is the deal with barney fife sporting the gun and cheese ball badge. They had mid thigh tactical holsters. Which are used when a gun may need to be drawn when in a crouch to make drawing it under fire easier. These saturday morning cartoon charactors look out of place in the field looking for made up treasure, let alone sporting skip tracer style gear. Second the coins? Saw no time in the ground. Man made alloys corrode because of the reaction to minerals found in the soil. Salts, calcium, iron, magnesium and alike. I found a few coins buried while searching the lake superior region for agates. Most you couldnt tell where coins at first because of all the corrosion. And they probably had not been buried for more then 70 years. Which was the oldest coin I found. A silver quarter. Left alone 130. They would have came clean but only after a proper restoration bath by a professional. And if the gold coins where real there is no way in hell someone with half a brain would rub them fully gloved covered in sandy soil. A single scratch can reduce its value by 20 to 30 %. He was rubbing it like it was his pecker. And what about that gold bar? "Must me 4 ounces?" Hello?! Gold weighs almost the same as lead being very close on the periodtic table. That much gold would weigh twice that. They didnt seem very excited to find such a valuable artifact. They knew little about the equipment they used. They were awkward clumsy and criminally stupid. Basically what reality tv producers drool over. The show was disturbing stupid. And pack with inaccuracies and half truths. Total trype. chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02770771181894821548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-4814804787392246822012-10-28T11:31:30.590-05:002012-10-28T11:31:30.590-05:00Not a casket. What grieving relative would dig by ...Not a casket. What grieving relative would dig by hand a grave deeper than 6' let alone more than 20'. However I do believe the coins were staged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-23960028300884553442012-10-09T21:31:57.113-05:002012-10-09T21:31:57.113-05:00Left a very bad taste in my mouth. Really, do you ...Left a very bad taste in my mouth. Really, do you think 2nd graders are watching!!?? History Channel is in need of a major overhaul!!!Rizzonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-81331612184318487742012-02-10T22:39:04.171-06:002012-02-10T22:39:04.171-06:00If I were a company I would watch this show and tr...If I were a company I would watch this show and try and decide if PMP has the integrity I would want my security contractors to have.okie treasure hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04442893428963538886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-54021788942540733012012-02-10T16:15:29.002-06:002012-02-10T16:15:29.002-06:00Regarding the badges and weapons: Pastore operates...Regarding the badges and weapons: Pastore operates "Private Merchant Police Services", a Corporate Security Consulting firm. <br />PMP is written on the badges they wear on that show so I guess it was kind of commercial for his business ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-58141840441496314402011-04-20T01:43:38.084-05:002011-04-20T01:43:38.084-05:00If they really found what they believed were authe...If they really found what they believed were authentic coins they would never have rubbed grime into them with filthy, sandy gloves. If you spent years reaching that point you would have learned far better "dig site" procedures than this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-25516759254935100682011-02-08T15:28:22.478-06:002011-02-08T15:28:22.478-06:00One thing I thought was typical of this type of sh...One thing I thought was typical of this type of show was showing that the evidence that the teeth thought to have been Jesse James' was inconclusive because it couldn't be proven that they were his teeth to begin with. It should be noted that the teeth did have DNA markers that proved the teeth belonged to a relative of James' mother, it just couldn't be proven that the teeth belonged to Jesse James.<br />Even more ridiculous was the fact that Jeremiah James' DNA didn't match Jesse James family DNA but was considered inconclusive because they didn't know if the body exhumed was actually Jeremiah James. So, the first test matched but was inconclusive so they intimate that Jesse could have faked his own death, The second test didn't match but was inconclusive so they intimate that Jeremiah could have been Jesse. This goes beyond flawed logic and just goes to show how poorly The History Channel practices science and interprets evidence in pursuit of a juicy story. <br />I am open to hearing evidence of any remarkable claim but I am truly offended when a program like this insults my intelligence. They fall just to the side of being deceptive. I am happy that the other posters were just as skeptical as I was.Michael Keatingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-34681790005214299832010-05-16T13:20:51.312-05:002010-05-16T13:20:51.312-05:00yes,after watch this show it is very odd that thes...yes,after watch this show it is very odd that these so called history/treasure hunters would be wearing side-arms and badges.in fact in one scene mr. pastore places a hat on his head with what appeared to be a U.S.Marshals badge attached to the front. with those notations in mind i believe( IF there is any truth in all this),the anonymous investors may be the united states goverment.....just one mans opinion..thank youUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284271736200035144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-46804087069732433382010-02-17T17:29:12.666-06:002010-02-17T17:29:12.666-06:00Thanks for beating me to the punch on most of my o...Thanks for beating me to the punch on most of my own observations about this mess..<br /><br />Two things..<br /><br />1)There is no way in hell these guys actually found those coins as claimed. those coins in my experience and opinion, are without question SALTED. The purpose of the salting seems to be to further/underwrite the nonsensical claims/book deals that sell stories about paid 'sentinels' who will improbably take 50 bucks in stolen bullion/coin to guard millions worth of treasure, and not simply dig it up and run off to California where no one will ever find them and they will be the richest men in the state...<br /><br />That location is the only topography in the area, and was a MAGNET for picnics,outings, KIDS DRINKING, HUNTERS...etc..<br />for many years.. anytime you put down a metal detector you are going to dig a lot of junk metal esp at a well-used location such as this. I have zero-doubt that these coins were 100% planted to further the purposes of those selling this show. <br />Finding this legitimately, would be the statistical likelyhood equivalent of getting attacked by a bear, and a polar bear, at the same time in midtown manhattan.. <br /><br />2) The first thing anyone who grew up in a rural area would think when you find a BOX BURIED on top of a hill in a rural area, as per the groundscan...<br />its a gravesite.<br /><br />Everyone in these areas for hundreds of years takes a picturesque hillside to bury their beloved grandma/grandpa who can enjoy eternity with the sun rising on them from the top of the hill..<br /><br />IF these guys really found what they claimed to find..a box buried on top of a hill.. there is one really good likelyhood for what that was = a casket.<br /><br />these guys likely dug up a unmarked gravesite and made up a excuse after prying the coffin-lid off of the land owners great-great-grandfathers brother..<br /><br />and to their disappointment finding only ELMER's remains, and no treasure..<br /><br />so this preposterous excuse about not being able to dig the last 8 feet..<br /><br />if these guys knowingly tampered with human remains in the pursuit of treasure..like the morons I expect they are...<br />I beleive there are laws pertaining to disturbing the dead, hoping that their caset/box has treasure in it.. and you KNOW that these guys even realizing its a coffin went into it, expecting it was part of some great conspiracy to better hide the treasure..<br /><br />they dug up a grave in my best guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-36451288338616224542010-01-26T23:22:24.991-06:002010-01-26T23:22:24.991-06:00Pastore is a liar. He knows the truth. It's al...Pastore is a liar. He knows the truth. It's all planted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-44887265769303641902009-12-08T01:56:36.399-06:002009-12-08T01:56:36.399-06:00The show was interesting.staged? probably,I live i...The show was interesting.staged? probably,I live in "Central Kansas"" ..LOL.! I was very disappointed with the total disregard of all the other history that they probably destroyed with a backhoe..... anybody know why they they armed and wearing badges ?...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1610034193886030330.post-49233346147229544782009-11-11T18:50:29.294-06:002009-11-11T18:50:29.294-06:00What I was "lost" by was, where was this...What I was "lost" by was, where was this "hidden treasure" found? The inplication was it was "central Kansas," with no more specific info. As such, was the "treasure" found on public or private land? In either event, who would own such finds? Just curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com